TN bans money, cops steal all they want

Police Committing Theft on I-40

According to a recent NewsChannel 5 investigation, law enforcement agencies in localities across Tennessee have a longstanding policy of apparently stealing money from innocent drivers who travel along I-40.

This recent investigative report will make your jaw drop and your blood boil. Watch it here.

The Institute for Justice (a libertarian legal-aid foundation) has given Tennessee a D- rating in this “policing for profit” scandal.

But sadly this is a disturbing trend not only here in TN but across the country…
Reason Magazine also discusses The Forfeiture Racket.

The International Society for Individual Liberty lists other notable cases.

The Cato Institute has a panel discussion on the topic of asset forfeiture.

LEARN HOW TO AVOID this happening to you by watching the following videos.

The proper way to handle a traffic stop
How to refuse a police search
10 Rules for dealing with police
Don’t talk to the police (part I) (Part II)
How to travel with cash
Confiscating cash

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Police Profiting Off Drug Trade

By Phil Williams
Chief Investigative Reporter
May 13, 2011

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A major NewsChannel 5 investigation has uncovered serious questions about Tennessee's war on drugs. Among the questions: are some police agencies more concerned about making money off the drugs, than stopping them?

At the center of this months-long investigation are laws that let officers pull driver over looking for cash. Those officers do not even have to file criminal charges against a person to take his/her money.

It turns out, those kind of stops are now happening almost every day in Middle Tennessee.

Case in point: a 2009 stop where a tractor trailer was stopped for a traffic violation, leading to a search and the discovery of large blocks containing almost $200,000 cash -- cash that officers keep on the suspicion that it's drug money.

"What's wrong with having a large amount of cash?" asked Karen Petrosyan, a California businessman who owned the truck.

Petrosyan refuses to admit there's anything suspicious about the stash that police discovered. Officers later released his father, who was driving the truck, without filing a single charge -- and authorities cut a deal that let Petrosyan come to Tennessee to get his big rig back.

Read officers' narrative about why money seized

"If I am a criminal, if they allege me to be a criminal," Petrosyan told NewsChannel 5 Investigates, "why would they settle? They do not just let criminals go."

District Attorney General Kim Helper said that "in general, it was seized because -- based upon our evidence and probable cause -- it's illegal drug proceeds."

Still, Helper admitted that what makes the Petrosyan case a bit unusual is the location. The traffic stop occurred in Smith County, near the Carthage exit. But the officers work for Helper's 21st Judicial District Drug Task Force out of Franklin -- more than an hour away.

Her officers patrol that area under a deal where they give a third of any cash they seize to the agency that owns that stretch of road.

Read the agreement between the 21st and 15th judicial districts

"It's a way to make money ... for your task force?" NewsChannel 5 Investigates asked Helper.

The DA paused.

"Honestly?" we asked, prompting a smile from Helper.

"Well, you know, when you say 'make money,' I guess it is a way for us to continue to fund our operations so that we can put an end to drug trafficking and the drug trade within this district," she responded.

In fact, Interstate 40 has become a major profit center for Tennessee law enforcement -- with officers stopping and often searching out-of-state vehicles. It's because of a state law that lets them seize money simply based on the suspicion that it's linked to drug trafficking.

If an owner does not take legal action to get the money back, the agency gets to keep it all.

"This is really highway shakedowns coming to the U.S.," said Scott Bullock, senior attorney with the Washington-based Institute for Justice.

Last year, the conservative-leaning group issued a report -- "Policing for Profit" -- that gave Tennessee a D-minus for civil forfeiture laws that make that it all possible.

Read the "Policing for Profit" report here

"Under civil forfeiture," Bullock said, "you give law enforcement a direct and perverse incentive to go out and try to take as much property from citizens as possible."

Dickson Police Chief Ricky Chandler said, "What we are doing, we're taking advantage of how the laws are, to use the money to be able to put back to fight the drugs."

Chandler heads the board for the 23rd Judicial District Drug Task Force, which has made millions off seizures in its counties -- Humphreys, Dickson and Cheatham. The town of Fairview also provides officers to the Task Force in exchange for a cut of the cash.

Then, three years ago, Chandler and the Dickson County sheriff helped create a second team -- known as Dickson Interdiction Criminal Enforcement, or DICE -- to work the exact same stretches of interstate.

Humphreys County and the town of Kingston Springs provide officers -- and Cheatham County allows DICE to work in its jurisdiction -- in exchange for a share of the money.

Read the agreement for the creation of DICE

"Everything's paid through seizures and fines," Chandler said.

NewsChannel 5 Investigates asked, "So if these officers out on the interstate don't come up with cash, then they might lose their jobs?"

"Well, it's a possibility, yes," Chandler answered.

Out on I-40, interdiction officers have a choice: Conventional wisdom is that the drugs come in from Mexico on the eastbound side. But the money goes back on the west.

While both agencies have made some big drug cases, we spotted both the 23rd and DICE staging time and time again with their backs to the drug side.

In fact, a review of daily activity sheets kept by the 23rd discovered that, when officers noted the location of their traffic stops, there were 10 times as many stops on the money side.

Review activity sheets for 23rd DTF, Oct-Dec 2010

Review summary of 23rd DTF cases, 2009-2010

UPDATE: A review of case summaries supplied by DICE shows that the entire team made one drug seizure -- 602 grams of heroin -- from Interstate 40 in all of 2010. Those officers arrested six people during stops on I-40 during that same 12-month period -- four of them on fugitive warrants, not for drug possession. Most DICE cases were seizures of money in the westbound lanes.

Review summaries of DICE cases, 2010

Review summary of 23rd DTF cases, 2009-2010

"We want both sides of the road worked," Chandler insisted.

NewsChannel 5 Investigates noted, "It looks like that they are not concerned about stopping the drugs, they just want the money."

"That's what it looks like," the chief admitted.

Is that the case?

"That shouldn't be the case, but that's what it looks like."

Scott Bullock with the Institute for Justice said that "it shows that the police are really focusing, not on trying to get the drugs, not on trying to enforce the drug laws and stop that flow throughout the country. They're focused on getting the money."

And it can lead to turf wars.

After DICE got a $1 million seizure last fall, police video shows that a DICE officer suddenly found himself being blocked by a unit from the 23rd while watching the westbound lanes. Within minutes, five units from the 23rd were lined up in a show of force.

As a result, the two agencies had to work out a "letter of agreement," specifying who would have priority on the westbound lanes on which days.

Read the letter of agreement between the 23rd and DICE

Then, there's a 2008 video where a unit from the 23rd cuts in front of a DICE unit on a stop, prompting this heated exchange:

23rd DTF Officer: "Leave me the f***k alone!"
DICE Officer: "Let me tell you something..."
23rd DTF Officer: "Punk!"
DICE Officer: "You ever come up [on] me and try to wreck me out again, it will be your last time. You understand?"

Chandler called those disputes "ridiculous."

NewsChannel 5 Investigates noted, "You've got two agencies fighting to stop the same cars."

"Competition can be a good thing," the chief said, "as long as you don't violate any person's rights."

But they're competing for the money that they can take off of drivers.

"Well, they are competing to do their jobs is what they are competing for," he insisted.

It's a job that, Bullock said, has lost its way. "Law enforcement is supposed to be about getting the bad guys. It's not supposed to be about making money."

Law enforcement authorities say their goal is to hit the drug traffickers in the pocketbook.

But some people have hired lawyers after their cash was taken and, sometimes after months and months of litigation, judges have ruled that the money that was taken from them really had nothing to do with drug dealing at all.

Highway robbery is what this is....so if you have out of state plates, dont come through Tennessee with any extra cash at all.

Video Shows Officer Offering Truckers Freedom For Cash

NewsChannel 5 Investigates has some incredible police video you've got to see. In it, an officer tells a suspected drug courier that he can walk -- if he coughs up his cash. "Hey, I'm not asking you if you have knowledge about it, and I won't ask you if you have knowledge about it. Do you understand me? ... All I'm asking you is, where's the money?"

Back to NC5 Investigates: Policing for Profit












Tennessee leads the nation with sheriffs convicted of drug dealing

Court says cops are exempt from law

The Dragonater gets carjacked and mugged by Fed Park Ranger on Foothills Parkway as the Great Smoky Mountains burned

UPDATE: "Pursuant to the court's disposition that was filed 05/12/2011 the mandate for this case hereby issues today: COSTS: None" United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, filed June 06, 2011

"We do not need officers breaking the laws we hire them to enforce."
-Norman Fernandez, attorey at law, BikerLawyer.net

Isn't that a Maxim of Law?

The 6th Circuit US Court of Appeals disagrees, claiming police are exempt from both state and federal law, exempt from discovery, and exempt from Local Rules in Blount County, Tennessee, though no judge signed the opinion in my case (many transcripts and briefs are missing from PACER, along with exhibits never sent to the appellate clerk, oral argument denied):

John Lee vs United States, Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals Opinion, 12 May 2011

John Lee vs United States, Sixth Circuit Appellant Brief

John Lee vs United States, Sixth Circuit Appellant Brief Attachment

Fed law ignored by 6th Circuit:

36 CFR § 4.2 State law applicable.
(a) Unless specifically addressed by regulations in this chapter, traffic and the use of vehicles within a park area are governed by State law. State law that is now or may later be in effect is adopted and made a part of the regulations
in this part.
(b) Violating a provision of State law is prohibited.

Tennessee Code 55-8-108. Authorized emergency vehicles.
(a) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call, or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law, or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
(c) (1) The exemptions granted under subsection (b) to a driver of an authorized emergency vehicle shall only apply when such vehicle is making use of audible and visual signals.
(Class C misdemeanor = 30 days in jail)

Fed Park Rangers and US Dept of Justice destroyed its video and audiotapes of its false arrest of The Dragonater

Here's undercover video of the same Park Ranger Keith Gad on Foothills Parkway:



Wisconsin Court of Appeals opinion that police dashcam video cannot be used by the defense when it proves the defense is innocent. Same as in my case on Foothills Parkway, where Park Rangers and fed prosecutors conspired with fed "judges" to destroy video and audio evidence.

Fed prosecutors Tell Fed Cops to Lie in Fed Traffic Court Trial

An example of the quality of "law enforcement" in Blount County, Tennessee:

"I'll burn your house down, set your dog on fire and there won�t be a member of your family left, do you understand me? I won't hire it done, I will do it myself! Do you understand me?"
-Deals Gap Blount County sheriff James Berrong, United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, Nuchols v. Berrong, No. 04-5645, July 11, 2005

This same Sixth Circuit said sheriff Berrong's admitted death threats to his secretary "did not shock the conscience of the Court".

"Please read the enclosure that presents the facts by someone involved in the investigation of this tragic accident. I grew up knowing Sen. Koella for the last 30 years. The bill has been passed and signed. There is NOTHING you can do to change that, and if you choose not to come to Tennessee, we will be better off without you."
-Senator Bill Clabough, American Motorcyclist Association, American Motorcyclist magazine, Greg Harrison Column: Contemptible, September 1999

Tennessee renames Pellissippi Parkway Interstate I-140 to honor convicted hit-and-run killer of a sportbiker in Blount County

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U.S. vs Edgar Steele, attorney at law

"In the 21st Century, everything about the U.S. government is a fraud."
-Wesley Hoyt, former prosecutor and attorney for Cyndi Steele, re U.S. vs Edgar Steele attorney at law, Rick Adams Radio Show, 18 May 2011

Conviction in fed court is easy when the feds forge audio tapes, destroy audio tape evidence, steal all a defendant's money so he can't hire a lawyer, grant immunity to the thief who stole $50,000 from him, appoint a drunken public defender who tells him not to testify, deny him the right to bail to prepare his defense, deny him the right to attend his own bail hearings, threaten to arrest his wife, lie to his wife, deny his wife the right to testify, deny his expert witnesses the right to testify, grant immunity to the real killers, etc. Why it's critical to tape record or video tape all your conversations with police and govt employees, and to never comply with voluntary requests by police:



In this case, Jew Bill Maher's cousin is a terrorist bomber assassin who frames innocent people in conspiracy to falsify audiotapes with fed judges, US DOJ, FBI, ADL Mossad and the incestuous homosexual pedophile kosher SPLC. The real assassins have immunity from prosecution for attempted murder of Cindy Steele and felony theft from Edgar Steele. Edgar Steele has appeared on virtually every national TV network news program and been interviewed repeatedly for Today, Good Morning America, The Early Show, Fox News, Dateline, NBC Nightly News, Court TV (which devoted a full week of broadcasting to one of Edgar’s trials recently), Geraldo and CNN, as well as countless local television news programs and radio talk shows throughout America, in connection with both his writing and the high-profile cases he has handled.

Cyndi Steele and Wes Hoyt on the Rick Adams Radio Show, 19 May 2011:




Two more examples of falsified video and deletion of audio evidence:

JusticeForJerryAndJoeKane.com - Deputy sheriffs whacked by Mexican Mafiya in West Memphis in retaliation for $2-million drug seizure, so police death squad whacks innocent bystanders in Walmart parking lot, then "reenacts" video "evidence" to avoid wrongful death lawsuit and homicide charges.

All charges dismissed against accused Redlight Camera Sniper, after a Knox deputy confessed to the crime in Knoxville TN.

"I saw two officers as before, who rode up to me, with their pistols in their hands, said God damn you stop, if go an Inch further, you are a dead Man, and swore if we did not turn in to that pasture, they would blow our brains out. Major Mitchel of the 5th Regt clapd his Pistol to my head, and said he was going to ask me some questions, if I did not tell the truth, he would blow my brains out. I told him I esteemed myself a man of truth, that he had stopped me on the highway, & made me a prisoner, I knew not by what right; I would tell him the truth; I was not afraid."
-Colonel Paul Revere, sworn affidavit: Memorandum on Events of April 18, 1775 (declassified Top Secret), while under arrest (and subsequent escape) from Redcoat martial-law traffic police at Minute Man National Historic Park, Paul Revere Capture Site, kicking off the American Revolutionary War at the Battle of Lexington and Concord, Paul Revere's Ride, by David Hackett Fischer

The Green Dragon pub was the "Headquarters of the American Revolution" where the Boston Tea Party was planned and Paul Revere planned his ride to start the Revolutionary War

Passengers now required to have driver licenses

Update: Failed anti-sportbike bill offers important lessons to both sides of the fight - "I hope they find a more positive way to memorialize their daughter. A scholarship, rider education program or other similar type program seems more appropriate than 'I got a ticket because of Malorie'."

Can you say Internal Passport? Can you say Right to Travel? Passengers are routinely arrested and convicted of drunk driving, when a vehicle is registered in the passenger's name. Do you enjoy TSA requiring you to have a driver license to fly as a passenger, then grabbing your mangina?

Bad facts lead to bad laws #4598

Behold the perfect example of a discriminatory Texas motorcycle bill:

HB 2470
Author: Phillips
Last Action: 05/05/2011 S Received from the House
Caption: Relating to the regulation of sport bikes and certain other motorcycles.

1) Definition of a sportbike Section 541.201, Transportation Code, is amended by adding Subdivision (18-a) to read as follows: (18-a) "Sport bike" means a motorcycle: (A) that is optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and maneuverability on paved roads; (B) that has a light weight frame; (C) on which the rider leans forward over the gas tank; and (D) is not a touring, cruiser, standard, or dual-sport motorcycle.

2) The passenger on a sportbike is defined as one who is 18 or older with an "M" endorsement SECTION 4. Subchapter I, Chapter 545, Transportation Code, is amended by adding Section 545.4161 to read as follows: Sec. 545.4161. OPERATION OF SPORT BIKE. (a) In addition to the requirements and prohibitions under Section 545.416, an operator may not carry another person on a sport bike unless the sport bike is designed to carry more than one person, and unless: (1) the operator: (A) is at least 18 years of age; and (B) has had a Class M license for at least two years; or (2) the other person: (A) is at least 18 years of age and holds a Class M license; or (B) is a motorcycle operator training and safety course instructor certified under Chapter 662. (b) An operator of a sport bike shall ensure that a passenger on the sport bike complies with all department regulations relating to motorcycle safety.

3) The addition of requisite 'safety' equipment to include: Sec. 547.803. SPORT BIKE SAFETY EQUIPMENT. If a sport bike is designed to carry more than one person, the sport bike must be equipped with foot pegs and handholds for use by a passenger on the sport bike.

4) Defining Motorcycle to include Sportbike SECTION 7. Section 661.001(1), Transportation Code, is amended to read as follows: (1) "Motorcycle" means a motor vehicle designed to propel itself with not more than three wheels in contact The term includes a sport bike, as defined by Section 541.201.

Did you follow all that? In a nutshell, this bill would effectively make it illegal to carry a passenger on a sportbike only (not a cruiser, touring bike, enduro, etc.), without at least two years as a licensed motorcyclist over the age of 18. Can you say discrimination against sportbikes?

This bill, also known as "Malorie's Law" (named after a young woman who, you guessed it, died while riding pillion behind an 18-year-old sportbiker) is now creating attention and controversy amongst Texas motorcyclists, but perhaps too late. It quickly made it through committee and already passed the Texas House almost unanimously. It's now on its way to the Texas Senate, where it could be passed for the governor to sign into law.

Needless to say, this is just another stupid, unenforceable law that'll only serve to hinder and hassle law-abiding riders.

Late in the game, many of us in Texas are sending letters to our senators. Here's mine:
Dear Senator Seliger:

Please vote against HB 2470, the discriminatory bill known as "Malorie's Law", which recently passed the Texas House.

HB 2470 attempts to discriminate against a specific type of motorcycle genre ("sportbike") in reaction to the death of a young woman who was unfortunately killed in a crash while riding pillion on one.

The bill would prohibit riders of sportbikes (a term which is effectively impossible to accurately define legally) who have been licensed for less than two years to carry a passenger. This law would not apply to the riders of so-called "cruiser", "touring", "standard" or "enduro" motorcycles, and is therefore highly discriminatory.

Furthermore, all licensed riders in Texas are already required to complete and pass a safety course which includes a classroom module on carrying passengers. In its discrimination, "Malorie's Law" would also be somewhat redundant.

Bad facts lead to bad laws, and emotional legislation instigated by grieving parents is often to blame. Please oppose HB 2470.

I oppose this proposed law primarily because it infringes my rights as a sportbiker. It singles me out as a bad apple simply because of the bike-type I ride, and it makes me subject to closer police scrutiny for no reason. It is discrimination. It's the same thing as saying, "My mom was killed by a red-headed guy, so I now want a law to put restrictions on red-headed guys being allowed out of their homes."

These coercive, aggressive actions do motorcycling, and the intent of law, a huge disservice. Perhaps somewhat ironically, the bike type associated with the most injuries and fatalities is *not* sportbikes, it is cruisers. This bill chases phantoms, and in the process it does nothing more than muddying the waters for law enforcement, while making motorcycle licensing more expensive and complicated for those of us who bother with doing it right.

Most importantly, I believe this law would result in more pursuits, more singling-out and discrimination against an already demonized motorcycle type, and impossible enforcement from a practical standpoint. I talked to a retired cop about this bill, and he said he wouldn't even allow his squads to use the law as it's now drafted, because there's no reliable way in the field to determine when a motorcycle endorsement was issued.

If you're a Texas motorcyclist, please stand up against this bill by contacting your senator immediately.

To read a lively and well-informed online forum thread concerning this bill, visit Two Wheeled Texans. Do

Justified homicide of cop

Dope-dealing Sheriff Doyle prepares to murder US Marshall Raylon Givens

Watch Season 2 finale of JUSTIFED


US Marshalls shoot Sheriff Doyle

Remind me to stay the hell out of Harlan Kentucky.

Actually, Tennessee leads the nation for sheriffs convicted of drug dealing.

"I'll burn your house down, set your dog on fire and there won't be a member of your family left, do you understand me? I won't hire it done, I will do it myself! Do you understand me?"
-Deals Gap Blount County sheriff James Berrong, United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, Nuchols v. Berrong, No. 04-5645, July 11, 2005

And lest we forget The Sons of Anarchy, where bikers and politicians killin cops is justified, aided and abeted by pot-smokin police chiefs:


Homicidal BATF Agent Stahl gets justified; excellent rendition of The Psychopathic Cop

SoA is written, directed, produced and acted by real-life coke-tokin outlaw biker Keith Sutter, who was writer, actor, director and producer of The Shield, where the hero was a dirty cop, and naked body cavity searches in view of the public on public highways was seen on prime time TV.


Keith Sutter's SoA blogspot



What does a TV show like The Sons of Anarchy do for Bikers and Motorcyclist? by biker lawyer Norman Fernandez

Google's Terminator drone cars at Deals Gap

Google looking to make driverless drunk driving legal in Nevada

PhysOrg.com

In an unexpected move, Google, the wily search giant with loads of ambition and enough spare cash to enable it to dabble in technologies that appear to have nothing to do with its core business, has hired lobbyist David Goldwater to represent the company in its push to legalize the running of autonomous vehicles on Nevada roads; this comes less than a year after announcing that it had been running live tests of its self-driving vehicles on California roads.

It was just last March that Google announced to the world that it had been racing autonomous cars around on rooftop parking lots and then just seven months later that it had been testing those cars on California roads; news that both made headlines and bolstered Google’s image as one of the more innovative companies operating today. Now comes news that Google is ready to tackle the sticky problem of allowing such cars to drive legally on roads, an issue no doubt that cropped up in the wake of its earlier announcements.

It’s not exactly clear why Google chose Nevada for its first push at legalizing what it’s been doing already; though there are theories, such as the fact that the giant Consumer Electronics Show (CES) just happens to be held in Las Vegas each year, or maybe it’s because Nevada has a history of allowing things that other states don’t; prostitution being the most infamous example, of course. Or it might be the fact that Nevada has a lot of roads that have very little traffic in very out-of-the-way places and thus could test its vehicles on public roads without much oversight.

In any case, it’s clear that Google is very serious about continuing its research with autonomous vehicles and as a part of that is pushing for legislation to create for themselves a hassle free environment for doing so. As a result, there are now two bills currently being introduced to the Nevada legislature related to autonomous vehicles; one would be an amendment to another bill regarding electric vehicles that would create a means of licensing and testing autonomous vehicles on public roads; the other would provide an exemption for such “drivers” from the current law that disallows texting while behind the wheel.

Google claims that computer controlled vehicles are and will be much safer than conventional human driven vehicles because they are able to respond to road conditions more quickly and don’t fall prey to other human foibles, such as drinking and driving, falling asleep, or simply forgetting to pay attention. If Google’s push to legalize such vehicles succeeds, we might just find out over the next few years, if they’re right.





See also:

Killer Robot Planes and Trains Attack USA

Dragonater Radio Show on TV

Pirate News Radio Show broadcast in April 2011, broadcast on Pirate News TN in May 2011.

Discussion of the court case that proved the speed limit on the Dragon is 65 MPH, not the illegally posted 30 MPH. Case dismissed without a single word of testimony in court. This same legal defense can be used to win almost all traffic ticket cases.

The Tennessee Attorney General is putting tremendous pressure on The Dragonater's defense attorney in the Blount County Public Defenders Office, to pressure The Dragonater to censor THE LAW and THE LAWYER'S NAME from this blog.

Perhaps the TAG should just pay The Dragonater the $450 the Loser owes for court costs, instead of scaring the PDs office... Then the TAG can indict the Blount County court clerks for refusing to issue subpoenas, and indict Trooper Randall Huckeby for his high crimes and misdemeanors.

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Yellow submarine at Deals Gap

One of them damn sportbikers musta run him off the US129

Went up there this evening, met Myk at the overlook. On the way home, it was already night and just after tabcat running along the lake, there was some dude just standing in the middle of the northbound lane. Didn't move when we came through, just stood right in the middle of our lane. We had to swerve to miss him. It was weird. I didn't see any cars or bikes around, just the dude standing in the road.

That was the ghost of Hogpen Pete. He shows up every year on Mother's Day, waiting for someone to give him a lift. If you would have stopped, he would have ripped the skin right off your skull. Or it may have been some dude.

It was Josh, and there's a reason you didn't see his Bimmer, he desperately needed help. Thanks for stopping, DOUCHES!

It didn't look like distress. It just looked like someone walking down the middle of the road. No waving arms, no movements of 'help', just someone out for a stroll in the middle of the road. It did not look, in any way, like distress... I'm sorry for not stopping but hey, I'm not armed, there was no vehicle anywhere around there, etc. Trip was a good distance ahead of me and I am not sure I have met Battle Cattle to know if it was him or not. I will admit my mind was a bit gone from being out on the bike all day. Maybe I should have stopped, but maybe's don't change that I didn't.

I can understand somewhat, after "helping" a car thief in the process of stealing a car one winter. (unknowingly of course) Josh was pretty much in shock though, which is why he didn't use the universal sign for help.

I didn't even expect a response back already. I was just thinking "I know I was brain dead, I know I was following another rider... but how many times have I looked over the side and been the first to find a wreck? how many times have I heard or read about someone going off the road and not being found?" I can not say why I didn't stop other than just being so brain dead and literally following the red taillight in front of me.

All I can say is that I KNOW better than NOT to stop on that road, especially after dark. I'm usually a lot more cautious if I don't know the person but damnit I know better.

I guess I can say it here as long as it doesn't reach facebook before I call my dad in the am. I ended up getting forced off the road near tabcat while passing a car in my BMW car. Needless to say I ended up going off the road and down into the water. Talk about scary water flooding your car and up over our face in about.... What felt like seconds. I ended up going out my open drivers window swimming to the bank and crawling up to the road to find..... Nothing. No car, no person, nothing, just me on the side of the road soaking wet. I flagged a truck down by yelling something along the lines of help. They stopped and made sure I was ok and I agreed to stay there and they would call 911. After that I was really in shock I kept standing in the road, even after the cops and firetruck showed up they were always telling me to stay out of the road. I am just glad I am ok, a little shaken up about the water but otherwise doing fine...

Forgot to mention you can't swim.


Killboy swimmin wit da fishes


Harley Davidson unveils SuperMaxBoatGlide at Deals Gap

Murdered biker and cops severed head ends in Mexican Mafia Massacre

Widow Tiffany at David Hartley's funeral. 13 MS13 gangbangers massacred by Mexican police on Falcon Lake in Texas

Local Texas sheriffs and ACLU issued a joint statement, "this mass shooting of drug dealers by Mexican police in Texas will have a chilling effect upon American law enforcement tasked with delivering narcotics for the Obama White House, or upon their own initiative."

Severed head of officer hunting for U.S. man lost to Mexican pirates on Falcon Lake is 'delivered to military in suitcase'

The lead Mexican investigator hunting for an American man who disappeared after he and his wife were ambushed on Falcon Lake has been beheaded, a Texas lawmaker claimed today.

The severed head of Rolando Armando Flores Villegas was delivered to the Mexican military in a suitcase, Aaron Pena said today.

Flores was leading the Mexican side of the investigation into the disappearance of David Hartley.

His wife Tiffany has told police she and her husband were ambushed by pirates while jet-skiing on the popular lake on September 30.

They shot her husband in the head, she claimed. She tried to rescue him but was forced to abandon his body when the pirates opened fire at her.
His body still has not been found.

Flores was working on the investigation with a team of officers on Monday, Lesley Lopez, the press secretary for U.S. Representative Henry Cuellar of Texas told CNN.

The investigators had an informal meeting last night, she said, before going home for the evening.

But this morning Flores' wife apparently arrived at the station in desperation. She said her husband had not arrived home last night and asked if officers there had heard from him.

'Shortly after,' Lopez said, 'they found his head in the suitcase'.
The suitcase had been left in front of the military base in Miguel Aleman, Mexico - across the border from Roma, Texas, and near Falcon Lake, she said.

Details were fuzzy, she said, because shaken Mexican authorities were not answering their phones.

David Hartley's father Dennis expressed his shock and regret at the killing.

'I just, I'm in shock about this right now,' he told the Associated Press. 'I really don't have any hope that David will be found. 'I really hate other people putting their lives at stake,' he added from his Colorado home. 'We don't need more sons lost. If this is true, I'm just really heart-broken that this happened.'

Tamaulipas state prosecutor's office spokesman Ruben Rios confirmed that Flores, the head of state investigators in the border city of Ciudad Miguel Aleman, was killed.
Rios did not say how Flores was killed.

But he claimed his slaying was unrelated to the investigation into David Hartley.
However, U.S. authorities say threats from drug gangs who control much of the area have hampered the search for Hartley's body.

Flores' death came a day after authorities in the attorney general's office gave confusing information out over suspects in the Hartley case.

Initial reports claimed that police were investigating two brothers who were 'well known to the area'.

But a spokesman for the attorney general said they had nothing official on the suspects.

Yesterday Mrs Hartley and her mother-in-law, Pam Hartley, appeared on television talk shows begging for help.

'Until we have him back, it's not final,' Mrs Hartley said on NBC's The Today Show.

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13 killed in clash on Mexico-U.S. border lake

Twelve suspected members of the Zetas drug gang and a member of Mexico's Navy were killed in a shootout on an island in a lake that straddles the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said Monday.

The Mexican Navy said the shootout occurred Sunday on Falcon Lake, located between Texas and the Mexican state of Tamaulipas, after troops patrolling the area spotted a camping area on an island.

The suspected drug traffickers used the island for storing marijuana to be transported by boat to the United States, the Navy said in a statement.

After the shootout, the Navy said it seized guns, ammunition and bullet-proof vests from the island.

Falcon Lake drew the attention of law enforcement authorities on both side of the border last September after an American man on a personal watercraft was reportedly ambushed by attackers and shot in the head.

2010: 'He took a bullet for me,' Falcon Lake victim's wife says.

Tiffany Hartley told police that she and her husband were riding water scooters on the lake on September 30 when they were attacked.

Her husband's body has not been found, and the case has remained unsolved.

"It didn't happen in the United States," said Zapata County, Texas, Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez.

Suspects in Falcon Lake killing identified.

And Mexican authorities, he told CNN last month, have "somewhat of a zero solvency rate, and a zero conviction rate."

"So unfortunately, this case may remain open forever, even though the information and the evidence may be there," according to Gonzalez.

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